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	<title>Comments on: Undervaluing web audiences</title>
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		<link>http://whatcomesnext.brussin.com/2007/04/17/undervaluing-web-audiences/#comment-106</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 08:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: David Brussin</title>
		<link>http://whatcomesnext.brussin.com/2007/04/17/undervaluing-web-audiences/#comment-86</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 03:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Craig,

I'm sure you're right about conversion rate as it applies to direct ecommerce site visitors who convert on their initial visit; the point I was trying to make is a bit different.

Direct visitors who convert on a later visit could be undercounted (in terms of tracking the ad or campaign responsible for the visit) due to the cookie issues raised in the comScore study.

Additionally, the direct (e.g., via a click) visit seems to be only part of the story. The indirect visit, such as a visit separated in time from the ad impression, is a bit harder to track. The ad networks have been measuring these "deferred" visits and other indirect conversions from brand campaigns by using their tracking cookies.

I'm suggesting that the cookie issues described in the study could depress measurement of specifically these deferred and indirect conversions.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re right about conversion rate as it applies to direct ecommerce site visitors who convert on their initial visit; the point I was trying to make is a bit different.</p>
<p>Direct visitors who convert on a later visit could be undercounted (in terms of tracking the ad or campaign responsible for the visit) due to the cookie issues raised in the comScore study.</p>
<p>Additionally, the direct (e.g., via a click) visit seems to be only part of the story. The indirect visit, such as a visit separated in time from the ad impression, is a bit harder to track. The ad networks have been measuring these &#8220;deferred&#8221; visits and other indirect conversions from brand campaigns by using their tracking cookies.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m suggesting that the cookie issues described in the study could depress measurement of specifically these deferred and indirect conversions.
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		<title>by: Craig Danuloff</title>
		<link>http://whatcomesnext.brussin.com/2007/04/17/undervaluing-web-audiences/#comment-85</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 02:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Interesting observation. Brand advertisers would clearly want to know that both the number of uniques was overstated and therefore the conversion number as a percentage of unique visitors is understated. 

I believe however that the more commonly quoted 'conversion rate' for ecommerce is based on visits, however, and therefore not changed. (The default conversion rate in Omniture and Google Analytics for example are based on visits not uniques.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting observation. Brand advertisers would clearly want to know that both the number of uniques was overstated and therefore the conversion number as a percentage of unique visitors is understated. </p>
<p>I believe however that the more commonly quoted &#8216;conversion rate&#8217; for ecommerce is based on visits, however, and therefore not changed. (The default conversion rate in Omniture and Google Analytics for example are based on visits not uniques.)
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